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Domain name optimisation



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Bobbynew
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I have read a little about the benefits of having one or more of your key words in your domain name to help with optimisation and improved SERPs

Does anyone have experience or evidience of this working?

Thanks


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Post Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:12 am
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I don't know about having your keywords in your domain name but defintly having your key words in the <title></title> tags helps heaps.


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Keyword rich doamin names can have some benefits for 1 and 2 word search phrases. The more words in the domain name the less likely that you will benefit and certianly if you have numerous hyphens in the domain name then you will likely trigger a flag for spam.

The benefit is likely to be relatively small however, and getting your hands on one or two word domain names is nigh on impossible nowadays anyhow.

You will see plenty of sites without keywords in their domain names holding a higher SERP than keyword rich domains.

As mentioned, title tag is very important as is the anchor text used in inbound links.


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The more words in the domain name the less likely that you will benefit and certianly if you have numerous hyphens in the domain name then you will likely trigger a flag for spam.

That could explains why I've seen domains with 1 hyphen beat these ones with two. Cheers for the heads up, I was thinking about buying a domain or two with 2 hypens but im re-thinking now.


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Funny, just read something yesterday that three of the largest SE's admitted a while back that the likelihood of getting flagged as spam increased relative to the number of hyphens in the doamin name.

One apparently is ok but 2 or more and your are likely to get flagged.

Actually here's what I read:

http://www.irelandseomarketing.com/seo/using-hyphens-in-domain-names/


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hypens arent good indeed
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Update - I am sure you can find it by looking, but Matt Cutts of Google in one of his later blog postings has verified that having your keywords in the domain name helps - but stay away from the hyphenated domains - they are a traditional sign of site spam.

And since we're talking about domain names, always register your domain for 10 years - it's a trust factor that google looks for. They know that black hats buy domains for 1 or 2 years, so they figure that if you are a legit business, you'll cough up the lousy $70 to register a domain for 10 years.


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didn't knew that. i know an older domain counts but are you sure a domain that expires sometime further in the future is better too?


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And since we're talking about domain names, always register your domain for 10 years - it's a trust factor that google looks for. They know that black hats buy domains for 1 or 2 years, so they figure that if you are a legit business, you'll cough up the lousy $70 to register a domain for 10 years.


never heard about that.. what is black hat, btw?
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Andrew
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Black hat is stuff like spamming for links, and other dirty tricks.

I'd say one-hyphen is surely safe. I've ranked a site with 3 hyphens before, and the top result on this search didn't get hurt too bad by a hyphen penalty with 3 as well...

http://www.google.com/search?q=work+at+home+forum
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Ya it really works, sepecially with the Google and MSN they give a lot of importance to the sites having keywords in their domain names.

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Black hat is stuff like spamming for links, and other dirty tricks.

I'd say one-hyphen is surely safe. I've ranked a site with 3 hyphens before, and the top result on this search didn't get hurt too bad by a hyphen penalty with 3 as well...

http://www.google.com/search?q=work+at+home+forum


I have some similar examples as well. I don't think people should be scared of using hyphens in the URLs but should be careful of the potential consequences of using them.


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so does that mean that kiss-my-ass.com is a bad domain name?


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quote:
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so does that mean that kiss-my-ass.com is a bad domain name?


lol

you been hitting those funny pills again?


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It's absolutely foolish to say that hyphens in your url will get your site marked as spam. I've got pages with 4 hyphens ( 3 in the domain and one in the page name ) get good results in Google.


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